Ernest Dove - More Important: Matt Harvey's Elbow or David Wright's Shoulder?


  We've often heard the phrase 'out of sight, out of mind'.  Well, in the cases of Matt Harvey and David Wright, neither was forgotten at any point during the 2014 season, whether they were playing or not.

  And so, rather than continue in the onslaught of questions marks which fly over the heads of the Mets overall infield, outfield, bullpen, coaching staff and GM position, I figured I would instead play a little game of what would you rather.

  Matt Harvey, who started an almost cult like Following from the day he stepped onto a major league mound, has still only logged 36 actual major league starts.  His two years on the mound ended up being for two losing teams.  He is also obviously coming off of a major surgery. And his team, despite another losing season in his absence, still happen to have a pretty decent 5 man rotation.  Unless involved in a 'Blockbuster' trade, Zack Wheeler and Jacob deGrom will be in a Mets uniform next year.  Bartolo Colon is under contract for another season. Jon Niese .......... well he's the only lefty that's major league ready.  And Dillon Gee, no matter the arbitration case, can even be affordable for the Wilpon's. So, we are already looking at an extra arm as it is.  Plus, The Mets already now have other top pitching prospects ready for their turn, in Noah Syndergaard and Rafael Montero.  However, the word 'Day' at the end of their names during each start was really in homage to the man with the confidence, attitude and work ethic that made everyone actually happy to be a Mets fan, at least every 5 days, in Matt Harvey.

  So, how important is it that Matt Harvey come back, and come back strong for this team, this organization, and its die hard fans?  We all know that Matt Harvey wants to pitch.  Heck, if it was up to him, he would have already pitched in a major league game this past August, or at least in September.  However, the Mets played it safe, and now Harvey will coming off that extra rest.  What will this mean for the team, and for Harvey.  In regards to rehab and time, everything is fine.  In regards to confidence and readiness, again we all know Harvey can answer that for you right now.  So, how badly do the Mets need that right elbow of his to hold up?

  The other body part belongs to the face of the franchise. The guy who will play with anything, broken backs, and now shoulder issues.  David Wright certainly was not David Wright last year.  However, David Wright is most certainly continuing to make David Wright money, and will continue to do so until the day he retires, and goes down as one of the top Mets in history, if not the greatest Met in history (start the arguments now).

  One is the potential ace of the staff for the next 10+ years (again, start the bailing to Yankees for the money jokes now).  The other is the franchise player and #3 hitter, who is counted on to hit over .300, and deliver double digit homers and triple digit RBI's to help this team become a contender. 

  I guess its a debate that can rage on forever, with plenty of counter points.  The Mets are now full of pitching, both in the rotation and in the bullpen.  However, the Mets are also starving for hitting and consistency at the plate from its overall offense.

  One might never make it back to what he was........... and, well, technically, this sentence can go for either guy at this point.

  What is your take.  What do we need more:  Harvey's elbow to produce at least 175 solid innings of top notch pitching, or David Wright's shoulder to contribute to .300 BA, 20+ homers (you know, the whole bring in the fencing thing), and continue the leadership on the field playing, and not sitting on the sidelines.

  Matt Harvey, and his elbow, can someday win a CY Young.  David Wright , and his shoulder, and back, and whatever else he fights through, can one day produce a Hall of Famer.

  What it currently more important for this franchise, at least for 2015, and then beyond.


John Hart


I was not happy when I went online and found out that the Atlanta Braves had announced that they had signed John Hart to a three-year contract as President of Baseball Operation. Before coming to Atlanta, he was the General Manager of, first, Cleveland, and then, Texas.

Hart is no slouch and it’s hard to predict how he will begin the rebuilding of the Braves. He’s been associated with them since the end of the 2013 season as a special assistant to the Braves owner, so you have to assume he’s up to speed with what’s needed in Atlanta.

(remember.. he already is responsible for negotiating long term contracts for Freddie Freeman, Andrelton Simmons, Craig Kimbrel, and Julio Teheran)

You also have to assume he has the power to get things done here. The 2014 Braves had some serious production problems, especially B.J. Upton (.208). who has three years left on his contract ($15.05mil-2015, $16.05mil-2016, $17.05mil-2017).

In addition, will Hart try to move RF Jason Heyward after a sub-par season (11-HR, .271). Heyward has one year left on his contract.
I’m sure Hart could find a home for Heyward, if he wants to, but he’s stuck with the Upton deal. Better him than Alderson.

Is there a chance for a Mets-Braves deal this off-season? I don’t think so, but anything can happen, right?

And where will Hart look to build? Well, a statement he made at his press conference says a lot:

"I think trade is the last piece you want to look at if you can't find what you're looking for in Free Agency"

Hart is going to have to rebuild the affiliates as well. Christian Bethancourt looks to take over the full time catcher role coming out of spring training, but then things get a little fuzzy for Hart.

Look for the Mets to overtake the Braves in 2015… probably also 2016… but then the Hart effect could kick in.

2014 Winter Leagues: 10/23/2014 Results


Arizona Fall League
- Glendale Desert Dogs 2 - 1 Peoria Javelinas
- Surprise Saguaros 3 - 5 Salt River Rafters
- Scottsdale Scorpions 3 - 7 Mesa Solar Sox 
  • SS Matt Reynolds: 2 for 5, R, HR, RBI
  • 2B L.J. Mazzilli: 2 for 4, K
  • RHP Robert Whalen: 4.0 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
  • RHP Paul Sewald: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, BB, 2 K

Venezuelan Winter League
- Tiburones de La Guaira 1 - 0 Aguilas del Zulia
- Bravos de Margarita 5 - 8 Leones de Caracas
  • SS Wilfredo Tovar: 2 for 5, 2 2B, 2 R, Error (1st)
  • RHP Miguel Socolovich: 1.0 IP, 3 K, Hold (2nd)
- Cardenales de Lara 5 - 11 Tigres de Aragua
  • 2B Leon Canelon: 0 for 1
- Navegantes del Magallanes 2 - 4 Caribes de Anzoategui
  • LF/1B Brandon Allen: 0 for 3, BB, K

Mexican Pacific League
- Yaquis de Obregon 5 - 5 Venados de Mazatlan
- Naranjeros de Hermosillo 5 - 0 Caneros de los Mochis
  • LF Brian Burgamy: 2 for 4, K
- Charros de Jalisco 4 - 5 Mayos de Navojoa
  • LF Cory Vaughn: 1 for 3, BB
- Tomateros de Culiacan 8 - 9 Aguilas de Mexicali
  • C Xorge Carrillo: 2 for 5, 2B, 2 R, 2 RBI

Dominican Winter League
- Leones del Escogido 5 - 13 Gigantes del Cibao
  • RHP Rainy Lara: 2.1 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 3 K
(Roster Movements: RHP Rainy Lara has been added to Leones del Escogido, RHP Gonzalez Germen has been added to Toros del Este, Darwin Frias has been added to Aguilas Cibaenas)

Roberto Clemente Puerto Rico League

(Begins 10/30/2014)

Morning Report – October 24 – Who Are The "Real" Mets Prospects, Jacob deGrom, Jenrry Mejia, Carlos Torres


We talk all the time about Mets ‘prospects’ and the players in the organization that are true gems in a sport that is dominated with talented, but mostly non-major league projectable ball players.

Every team drafts 50 players a year. Additionally, they sign at least 25 more as part of the UDFA program. All of this is designed to fill the eight or nine minor league teams each organization puts on the field each year.

We’re talking 600-675 ballplayers and we haven’t even signed a free agent yet, and yet, all each team is trying to do is fill in a 25-man professional squad.

So, how many ‘prospects’ are a team supposed to have in their system? Is there a magic number that tells someone that they may have too much talent?

I’m pretty tough on grading the talent in the system. I’d like to error of the safe side and let players like Jacob deGrom and Juan Legares prove me wrong.

Right now, I see 14 players that I project (based on their ceiling, scouting reports, and results at their last level vs. similar talent level players) will make it all the way to the Mets as part of a future 25-man squad.

They, and their ETA year, would be:

            2015 – SP Noah Syndergaard
                          C Kevin Plawecki  

2016 – SP Steven Matz
            2B Dilson Herrera
            OF Brandon Nimmo

2017 – OF Michael Conforto

2018 – SP Robert Whalen
            1B Dominic Smith
             Closer - Akeel Morris

2019 – SP Marcus Molina
            SS Amed Rosario
            3B Jhoan Urena
            OF Wuilmer Beccera
            OF Vincente Lupo

Is this enough? Well. You always like to see at least two players per position projected as future major leaguers, but this isn’t a bad looking list.

It also is very conservative, both on the ETA dates and players that could easily gear it up and make the grade some day (examples: Matt Reynolds, Cesar Puello, Michael Fulmer, Paul Sewald, LJ Mazzilli, etc.) Many of the players listed could easily be called up after the prior year’s all-start break or in September when the rosters expand.

Most vulnerable position… relief pitching, where only Morris is projected as a future major leaguer.

Everybody is going to start grading Mets players this time of the year who we’ll use the ones on this site and add some thoughts:

Jacob deGrom, starter  -  Speaking of deGrom, the rookie came out of nowhere to steal the attention of more highly touted prospects, like Wheeler and Rafael Montero. And there’s no question he looks very good. He’ll need to repeat his success in 2015, but he should win Rookie of the Year in 2014 and he earned it with a team-leading 2.69 ERA and 1.14 WHIP.  Grade: A  http://www.metro.us/newyork/sports/mlb/2014/09/30/mets-2014-report-card/

Jacob deGrom. The rookie right-hander went from unheralded reliever-to-be to frontrunner for NL rookie of the year and among the best pitchers in baseball over the second half. Quite a fast rise. DeGrom also gives the Mets an even more fearsome rotation for next season, headed by Matt Harvey, Zack Wheeler and deGrom. With Noah Syndergaard and Steven Matz also in the minors, the Mets have a handful of talented and young starters who will be under team control for a while. That's a great place to be. http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2014/10/mets_7_best_things_about_their_2014_season.html

The Graduate: Jake DeGrom, RHP: When I ranked DeGrom as the seventh-best prospect in the system at the beginning of 2014, I certainly didn’t expect him to pitch quite as well as he did at the big league level. The right-hander saw his command take a huge step forward — especially with his fastball and his four-pitch mix kept hitters off balance. http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/a-minor-league-review-of-2014-marlins-mets-nationals/

        Mack - Three more examples of positive press on the rookie. It's amazing how quick this guy past Zack Wheeler as prime beef in the league.

Jenrry Mejia - After successfully moving into the closer's role in 2014, Mejia is obviously a keeper for 2015. He did pitch with a hernia down the stretch, but he survived the season without any arm problems and pitching in short outings seems to suit him. There's a chance the Mets use Mejia as a trade chip this offseason, but if not he'll be a key part of the bullpen, even if he doesn't remain in the closer's role. http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/2014/10/10/determining-fate-for-each-member-of-new-york-mets-bullpen-in-2015/#slide_25

Mack – I applaud Mejia for everything he did in 2014 but my prediction in nothing but bad water for him in 2015. First, I’m ‘old school’ and you always give the closer role back to the guy that lost it due to major surgery. That means Bobby Parnell would take over the role which could really hurt Mejia’s very emotional approach to this game. Secondly, I truly believe that, if Parnell stumbled, the job would be passed on to Jeurys Famila who, in my and many other ‘pundits’ books, would make for a much better, more controlled closer. For both these reasons I would hope that Sandy Alderson try to find Mejia a home on another team that won’t come back and hurt us. I’m thinking Arizona as part of a package for one of those shortstops.

Carlos Torres - Until the day his arm falls off, the Mets should keep Torres around. He has been an invaluable workhorse in the bullpen over the past two seasons. In 2014, he was second in appearances and had the most innings pitched of any non-starter, including Jenrry Mejia, who made seven starts this year. With his versatility and his rubber arm, there's no doubt there will be a spot for Torres in the Mets' bullpen in 2015. http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/2014/10/10/determining-fate-for-each-member-of-new-york-mets-bullpen-in-2015/#slide_25

Mack – I haven’t mentally signed off on Torres yet for 2015. Sure, he’s done a lot for the Mets in the past, but I’m not sure if there is anything left in the tank here.

And lastly...

I have a post coming up at noon about the Atlanta Braves’ John Hart, but one thing in advance.

As many of you know, he has been instrumental in getting some of the Braves younger stars to sign a long term extension, replacing the time they would have had to be renegotiated each year during arbitration.

A good question to throw out here this morning would be what current Mets should be renegotiated a la the way Jonathan Niese was in the past?


INJURY UPDATE - OF - Michael Conforto


I talked with someone that was present for the Mets Instructs that have gone on since the season ended and he said that Mets prospect OF, Michael Conforto, had some back issues during the last two weeks he played there. 

I have only one source on this. 


Mets Hire Kevin Long as Pitching Coach


Kevin Long is switching boroughs, but remaining in New York City.
Shortly after being fired as hitting coach with the Yankees, the Mets have hired Long for the same role.
"Kevin's experience, success and wealth of knowledge make him the perfect fit as our hitting instructor," general manager Sandy Alderson said in a statement on Thursday. "This is a very positive step for the Mets. We welcome Kevin and his wife Marcey to the Mets family."
Said Long: "I'm excited to get the opportunity to work with a team that I think is on the rise. I had a great meeting with Sandy and [manager] Terry [Collins] yesterday and I can't wait to get started and help in any way I can."
Long, 47, had served as Yankees hitting coach for eight seasons.
He succeeds Lamar Johnson, who will return to a role in the minor leagues. Johnson had been promoted in May with the firing of hitting coach Dave Hudgens.
Hudgens since has been hired by the Houston Astros as hitting coach.
The Mets also announced the promotion of Dustin Clarke from Triple-A Las Vegas to serve as strength and conditioning coach.

UPDATE - OF - Michael Cuddyer


Michael Cuddyer | Outfielder

Team: Colorado Rockies
Age / DOB:  (35) / 3/27/1979
Ht / Wt:  6'2' / 221
Bats / Throws: Right / Right
Contract: view contract details



According to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News, the Mets have "concrete" interest in impending free agent outfielder Michael Cuddyer.
Martino hears from "people familiar with the Mets' thinking" that the team would like to sign Cuddyer to a two-year deal this winter to provide power to their lineup and veteran presence to their clubhouse. The 35-year-old batted .332/.376/.579 in an injury-shortened 2014 for the Rockies. He posted a .919 OPS, 20 home runs, and 84 RBI across 130 games with Colorado in 2013. Oct 23 - 1:06 PM

UPDATE - CF - Juan Lagares


NEW YORK -- Juan Lagares is one of three finalists for the NL Gold Glove in center field, Rawlings announced Thursday. The other contenders: Billy Hamilton and Denard Span. 

Winners will be announced Nov. 4 at 7 p.m. ET on ESPN2. 

The award is 75 percent based on input from NL managers and coaches and 25 percent based on defensive metrics. 

As many as seven personnel per team may vote for the award, but voters are prohibited from selecting someone from their own team. 

Lagares is the lone Mets finalist at his position.


2014 Winter Leagues: 10/22/2014 Results


Arizona Fall League
- Peoria Javelinas 1 - 10 Glendale Desert Dogs
- Salt River Rafters 9 - 2 Surprise Saguaros
- Mesa Solar Sox 9 - 3 Scottsdale Scorpions
  • LF Brandon Nimmo: 0 for 3, 1 BB
  • 2B L.J. Mazzilli: 2 for 4, R, HR, 3 RBI
BONUS: Footage of Mazzilli's HR

Venezuelan Winter League
- Bravos de Margarita 3 - 13 Caribes de Anzoategui
  • SS Wilfredo Tovar: 0 for 2
  • LF Brandon Allen: 2 for 4, 2 R, 2 HR, 5 RBI, BB, K
- Navegantes del Magallanes 4 - 1 Leones de Caracas
  • PR Oswald Carabello: Run Scored
- Tiburones de La Guaira 8 - 2 Cardenales de Lara
  • RHP Ryan Reid: 1.0 IP, BB, K
  • DH Jairo Perez: 0 for 4, 2 K 

Mexican Pacific League
- Yaquis de Obregon 6 - 7 Venados de Mazatlan
- Naranjeros de Hermosillo 2 - 3 Caneros de los Mochis
  • LF Brian Burgamy: 0 for 4, 2 K
- Charros de Jalisco 1 - 6 Mayos de Navojoa
  • LF Cory Vaughn: 1 for 3, 3B, R, BB, K
- Tomateros de Culiacan 3 - 2 Aguilas de Mexicali
  • C Xorge Carrillo: 0 for 4, 2 K

Dominican Winter League
- Estrellas de Oriente 11 - 1 Tigres del Licey
- Gigantes del Cibao 5 - 3 Toros del Este
- Leones del Escogido 1 - 2 Aguilas Cibaenas

Roberto Clemente Puerto Rico League

(Begins 10/30/2014)

Morning Report – October 23 – Zack Wheeler, Brandon Nimmo, Erik Goeddel, Amed Rosario,


Everybody is going to start grading Mets players this time of the year who we’ll use the ones on this site and add some thoughts:

Zack Wheeler, starter - It can be hard to live up to the mantle of being a stud, can’t-miss prospect.  Wheeler found that out this year when he had a 3.54 ERA and struck out 187 batters in 185 1/3 innings — and was called a disappointment. Many fans, and media, probably feel Jacob deGrom has already passed him as a prospect. But Wheeler is still developing into a nice top of the rotation starter.  Grade: B  http://www.metro.us/newyork/sports/mlb/2014/09/30/mets-2014-report-card/

Zack Wheeler. It was quite a last two-thirds of the season for Wheeler. He showed why he was worthy of the hype, actualizing the potential that made people think he was a front-line starter. Wheeler blossomed into an ace, continuing his linear path from the minors into the Mets' rotation, where he'll likely be the No. 2 (or maybe even No. 1) starter next season.  http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2014/10/mets_7_best_things_about_their_2014_season.html

Mack – I still have only one problem here before I anoint him either the SP1 or SP2 pitcher in the Mets Dream Rotation.

Wheeler has to produce much better control early on so he can pitch deeper into each game he starts. 

Brandon Nimmo is the marquee Mets prospect to watch in the AFL this year. He had a breakout year in 2014, especially when it comes to his power. Nimmo started to figure out Double-A towards the end of the season, and a trip to the AFL is meant to further accelerate his development. With a good month in Arizona, he could start next in Triple-A and have a good chance to make his MLB debut in 2015, possibly by mid-summer if all goes well. - http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/2014/10/07/arizona-fall-league-preview-for-new-york-mets-prospects/#slide_3

Erik Goeddel - Goeddel got a September call-up with the Mets, and put up a 2.70 ERA in 6.2 innings, with opposing hitters batting .136 against him. That's a small sample size from September so there's not much to go on, but Goeddel is worth keeping around. He won't play a pivotal role in the bullpen, but he throws hard and flashes above-average secondary pitches. Even if he's just minor league depth, Goeddel is worth keeping around. http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/2014/10/10/determining-fate-for-each-member-of-new-york-mets-bullpen-in-2015/#slide_25

Mack – Goeddel is a handful of Mets minor league starters that have no place to go other than out of the system or into the Mets pen. Frankly, I have no idea what Sandy Alderson is going to do with the likes of Goeddel, Logan Verrett, Matt Bowman, and Corey Mazzoni. Right now, he can’t even find a roster spot for Jon Niese or Dillon Gee. The promotion of Goeddel this past September caught me off guard because I was hoping to see Jack Leathersich.

The Lottery Ticket: Amed Rosario, SS: Just 18, Rosario showed improvement during his second pro season. He’s toolsy and has a chance to be a solid player both at the plate and in the field but he needs to get stronger. He has the frame to add significant pop once he puts on some added muscle, although he’ll likely never be a power hitter. http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/a-minor-league-review-of-2014-marlins-mets-nationals/

Mack – The Mets will probably have three talented shortstops (Rosario, Luis Guillorme, Milton Ramos) that won’t open the 2015 season for a full season team. The good news for all of them is there’s nothing but blue sky ahead of them for growth in the system.

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